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SiobhanMarie
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 Posted: 21 May 2009 at 10:15pm |
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No - I'm desperately trying for fair trade first which isn't having any luck at all. Plus there is just so much going on it's hard to constantly remember things I'm not actively involved in yet. Blah! I'm so frustrated at my stupid uni. I'm sure I can get it through to them soon!
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tails
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 Posted: 22 May 2009 at 2:55pm |
My school is like that Siobhan. I tried desperately to get them to send delegates to the GLCs not too long ago, and they flat out refused to even advertise it and gauge the interest of students!
I also tried last year to make them fair trade, but was shot down time and time again and became quite miserable. I guess student input really isn't as valuable when it is only one student, which I think was my issue in both cases...
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greenscene
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 Posted: 22 May 2009 at 3:08pm |
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But how else can schools go fair trade? We do not sell chocolates or teas...in any instance, we'd only switch to fair trade coffee in the staff room.
Thoughts? In the UK, fair trade is big business. There are cakes,biscuits,nuts,fruit and vegetables all embellishing the fair trade logo!
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SiobhanMarie
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 Posted: 24 May 2009 at 2:16pm |
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Well schools could make bigger efforts - school fundraisers are a big thing. I remember selling my Cadbury chocolates for fundraisers throughout many years.
We also used to have hot chocolate days at school in winter - fair trade hot chocolate days are always a good idea.
Switching to fair trade in staff rooms is big, but also when catering for functions and meetings - teachers are always having meetings of sorts and visitors to the school.
What about even finding other fair trade products - sporting equipment and other goods - there are a number of steps that can be taken if everyone is willing to do some of the work.
They can also promote in their school newsletter and notices - just reminders and goals and keeping the school community informed.
Yeah - there's alot going on in the UK, isn't there! It's awesome. :) Hoping we can adapt some of those strategies, however Ryan, something came up during Trek that I think is important to take note of. To get the fair trade logo, costs money - of course! However, there are many fair trade products and producers that are knowingly doing everything 'right', or fair, but cannot afford the logo and don't bother because they know that their business is true to these standards - it's just not possible for them to get the logo. So there are other products out there that can't get that same recognition, but are the same standard of ethical rights to humans, animals and the environment.
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greenscene
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I just do not think I would be very successful at competing against the school to change our slavery-made uniforms into that of a sustainable kind, without driving up costs for parents...which would be difficult in these tough times!
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SiobhanMarie
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 Posted: 24 May 2009 at 6:00pm |
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What about seeking a community program. Seek funding for upskilling home parents, carers, or even people in the community to learn to sew and make the uniforms. Sustainability can also work in a 'developed' community.
There's always a way. That of course, is a long term plan though. How long do you have left at that school?
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greenscene
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 Posted: 24 May 2009 at 7:48pm |
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Wouldn't work...parents of some students would not have time to do not nor would bother doing that...
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SiobhanMarie
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 Posted: 24 May 2009 at 7:50pm |
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Absolutely. I'm totally into dismissing ideas straight up too. Good on you.
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tails
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Siobhan, I can tell you got pretty cut at that. . .
Understandable, but I can also see where ryan is coming from. I know that the parents of my school/area wouldn't bother, and I wouldn't actually waste my valuable time trying when i could be doing something that actually has potential to work. To get people on board for living more ethically, we need to make sure it is no more work for them than how they already live. Most people don't have hours on end to devote to making uniforms in such a competitive and demanding world. I think it was a wonderful idea, I truly do, but to be successful in making the world embrace the lifestyle, we need to be more consumer friendly, not only earth friendly. :)
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SiobhanMarie
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 Posted: 24 May 2009 at 9:33pm |
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And the possibility of up-skilling people wanting or needing to get into the workforce, to build skills and opportunities in our own communities as it is?
Also, "I wouldn't actually waste my valuable time trying when i could be doing something that actually has potential to work." Tails, your saying this has no potential to work? How can you possibly know that every parent and/or carer in your school community or just community in general would not be interested in anything at all?
Why can't the possibility of a community being involved in a project like this that helps to upskill community members and give to the school-community, as well as being an ethical, or as ethical as possible?
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tails
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I do see where you're coming from Siobhan, but I'm just taking into account the countless actions and proposals similar to this that I've seen in my area, and I have never seen one successful.
Maybe I am too quick to shoot down the suggestion, I am open to critique, but at the same time I think that you have to understand that each person on here knows their area quite well, we're all community minded people, so at the end of the day we also know to a certain degree what will work and what wont..
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greenscene
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 Posted: 26 May 2009 at 7:04pm |
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I agree with tails.
The majority of people who attend private schools do seem to have a fair bit of money and are of importance. Many are able to afford the luxuries of uniforms, but wouldn't necessarily bother with making it themselves - their time is value. Time=money!
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